I now have the privilege of presenting this interview with August and Pandora Rose of Darkrose Manor, a haunt located near Denver, CO. I had first become aware of the Manor after seeing it featured on Pumpkinrot's blog. I followed the haunt over the next several years, but DRM really grabbed me by the balls upon releasing the video of its 2013 haunt - Glaschielverto. I have a minor obsession with caves and the idea of underground dwellings, so seeing that years incarnation of the Manor was nothing short of mind-blowing. I maintained regular contact with the Roses throughout 2014, eagerly awaiting updates of that years undertaking - "Dark Carnivale of the Twisted Poppets". The result of which was the best damn version of the dark carnival theme I have ever seen. In November, I contacted the Roses about doing this interview, and they graciously agreed. We originally did it over the phone; however, due to a series of technical screw ups on my part, the audio was lost. However, the Roses were kind enough to re-do the interview via email. And so, after many delays, I now present An Interview with the dark minds behind Darkrose Manor:
1. First
things first: What is Darkrose Manor?
Darkrose
Manor started as a yard haunt. When we decided we wanted to actually attempt to
do something more creative and, well, less ‘cheesy’, we assumed it would need a
name as well. After much deliberation (and Pandora’s insistence that it include
‘Manor’), we agreed to go with Darkrose, which has a story of its own…. DRM has
since grown into something more than just a haunt. The Manor is not only the
house we live in, it is also the setting for the first back-story. Moreover, it
has become the place in which all of our artistic passions and projects now
reside.
2. Tell
me about yourselves: just a little background info on yourselves?
We
feel we are a little strange, to say the least. Regardless of how we’ve earned
income in the past or today, we consider ourselves artists on many levels. We
draw, sculpt, write, sing, dance, etc. We’ve worked many types of jobs, been
part of several types of communities, lived all over the country, met and
befriended many different people. We’ve had children, but our personal time spent
as parents has been seriously limited…. When we eventually became a couple, it
was like the whole world changed. In each other, we found that not only did we
feel acceptance, but also we discovered ways to engage and draw out even more….
3. How
did you initially get into Halloween?
In
our past, we were both part of the Gothic scene. As you’d expect, we have
always had a passion for things that had a ‘darker’ tinge to them. Halloween
has always been that one holiday that speaks to those elements. We used to go
to the clubs, and any chance we got (but especially at Halloween) we would
dress up in costumes. We have always enjoyed that. When we decided to get
married, it seemed right for us to do it on Halloween. It’s been our holiday
all along.
4. What
was it that made you initially want to start a haunt in 2007?
The
simple answer is nothing. We had never decorated before. In 2007, we had
entered a costume contest with some pretty elaborate costumes, but this was a
week or so before Halloween. On Halloween day, August was at work. We had
absolutely no plans for the night. Pandora had gone to the store for some
things and had seen all of these silly decorations on clearance. On a whim, she
bought a lot of them, came home, and went crazy putting them up on the porch
and out in the yard. It was a surprise to August when he came home and saw all
of this. It was definitely ‘cheesy’, but it was just so much that it just made
us feel good inside. We sat out on the porch in minimal costumes (the witch and
the vampire) with a bowl of candy, and despite the fact that we didn’t get even
one TOT (that house was in a neighborhood that didn’t have a lot of kids), we
had a great time together.
5. Between
2007 and 2008, your haunt really went from zero to 60! What inspired that?
As
we sat on the porch that night and talked, we discussed how silly everything
looked. Our artistic hearts and our innate drive, if you will, to do things
bigger and better (costumes, for example) led us to think about how we could
actually decorate for Halloween without it looking ‘stupid’. We had never heard
of home haunting before, but the conversations that night and the next morning
led us to the internet to research ideas and inspirations. It didn’t take long
to find out that home haunting was a real thing and that there were forums, etc
where people shared ideas, stories, and resources. So, in essence, we simply
made the decision to do a home haunt the next Halloween. Taking cues from
others, adding our own flair to the ideas, we spent only about a month or so
the following summer/fall building all of our props and writing a back-story.
Darkrose Manor was born.
6. How
did you feel when you first discovered the Haunting community?
When
we decided to costume the house instead of ourselves, among the reasons was
that we had begun to drift away from the scene somewhat. We had begun to feel a
little isolated. The forums had a way of making us feel more included in
something again. It certainly didn’t take long to figure out that haunters were
a special group of people. As the years went on, the forums led us to the YouTube
and Facebook communities. There has always been some drama, etc, but for the
most part the haunter community as a whole is one of kindness, caring, and
mutual support. To this day, most of our true friends are haunters because of
that.
7. 2008
seems to have been a very traditional-style haunt. Can you talk about that?
Well,
as we said, our research on how to decorate for Halloween showed us more of the
traditional. It only seemed natural to do the jack-o-lantern, spider web,
tombstone, witch, graveyard kind of thing. We wanted to do it ‘right’…at least
at that time….
8. Tell
me about 2009 - Swamp Witch?
In
2009, we bought the house we currently live in, and it has a huge backyard.
Although DRM ’08 only had about 50 TOT’s, we knew we had created something
special. In true Rose fashion, we, like so many others, felt we could expand on
it. We not only made the decision to haunt again, in our new home, but also to
include the backyard. We made more props, but we didn’t really expand the back-story
or unify the whole thing within one theme. We definitely feel we learned some
lessons that year. We realized, for us anyway, that everything needed to be
consistent. We felt it was just a series of scenes that didn’t really work
together—a mish-mash of stuff. That, combined with several snow storms that
delayed builds and set-up, left us feeling like we weren’t succeeding the way
we wanted. We even almost cancelled the whole thing, but we pulled it together
the best we could. The actual run nights saved haunting for us. Our new
neighborhood had figured out what we were doing. New friends rallied around us.
The attendance that year just blew us away. Mama Rose had caught the haunt bug
herself that year and has been a major part of it since. We weren’t real
thrilled with our production, but the lessons learned, the new directions we
were only beginning to understand, etc, led us once again to conversations,
ideas, and new commitments.
9. 2010
was very Sleepy Hollow-esque, with a new walkthrough section. What can you tell
me about that year?
The
lessons learned in 2009 were not wasted on us. And, like so many, Pumpkinrot
had a major impact on us. We made the decision to only haunt the front yard,
but we also decided to change the theme. We left the graveyard out of it when
we came up with what we called an homage to Rot. We wrote the second back-story
to explain and describe it. By expanding the story to include Darkrose Hollow,
we had a theme that we could stick to, and by concentrating solely on the front
yard, we were able to spend more time on the details, new props, and even
‘structures’. We were able to enjoy it more as we ourselves became immersed in
something meant to be immersive. We went to great lengths to make sure that all
of the normal disappeared from our haunt. August even ended up writing an essay
about what we decided to call art-haunting. DRM ’10 was a watershed year for
us. We knew we would never do the same haunt from year to year. We knew that we
would redouble our efforts to detail everything. We felt we had come into our
own by developing a DRM style, so to speak.
Darkrose Hollow |
10. 2011
seems to have been inspired by old Hollywood-style movie cemeteries, like you
would see in the Universal Monster movies. What made you go in this direction
after the past years more “traditional” themes?
Having
put the graveyard away in 2010, but also having done what we did in 2010, we felt
that the next year would be an opportunity to revisit the original Manor theme,
which is rather ‘traditional’, and make it better, or at the very least
something more in line with that DRM style we felt we had created. We
refurbished our first props, utilized structures again, and once more detailed
the hell out of it. We also included actors (outside of us and Mama) for the
first time. Our niece and youngest daughter played large roles within the
haunt, and several friends and family also played characters or served as DRM’s
first Security Team. Our numbers had grown so large since 2009 (we’ve had as
many as 2000 come through our yard) we knew we needed help, and we got it. Our
reputation had grown as well. More people helped by building, contributing materials,
spreading the word, etc. DRM had really ceased to be just a haunt by now. It
was a phenomenon. It was a family. It was an idea, a goal, a process; and yet….
11. 2012
Was pretty scaled back from years previous; what was the reason for this?
Haunting,
especially at the extremes, costs money. 2012 wasn’t the best year for us
financially. There were personal things that happened that year as well. We
never even contemplated the idea that it was okay to take a year off, but we
also knew we wouldn’t be able to do it that year in a way that would make us
feel satisfied. We thought we were done; we really did. However, on Halloween
night, we took a cue from our past and thought we would just put out a couple
of things, sit on the porch with a bowl of candy, and enjoy the night. Well, a
couple of things turned into more and more things. We had props, so we just
kept grabbing things from the garage. We only spent the day doing it, but by
the time we were done, we felt we had done enough to not totally disappoint the
neighborhood. (Many were kind of sad we weren’t doing the haunt that year.)
Ironically, the scaled-down version of 2010 seemed to be just as special to us
and everyone else as the larger haunts.
12. 2013’s
Ice Cave was INSANE! I have never seen a haunt like that before! It was also
pretty elaborate! What is the story behind this haunt?
Ah,
2013…! Well, 2013 was not much better in the financial aspect. We knew we would
do something for Halloween, but we figured it would also be scaled back like 2012,
only a different theme. We considered some ideas, one of which would center on
webs and ice. We never really settled on anything though and even felt kind of
dismayed about the whole thing. And then, as fate would have it, we were
contacted and asked if we’d like to be part of a TV show about haunting. Long
story short, this ignited the fire within us and Mama. In a way, we admit we
were blinded by the stars in our eyes. Mama primarily funded the haunt that
year to a massive degree. We still didn’t fully know what our theme was or how
it fit into the larger narrative of DRM. We kind of liked the icy web idea and
eventually revisited some of our own arts and writings on other subjects.
Instantly, we knew. We would expand the back-story to include characters and
settings from all of our once disparate arts and create a larger world in which
they could all live together. We went all the way back to the
costumes/characters we came up with for that last costume contest in 2007 and
set about building the world of the Glaschielverto. It was no small
undertaking, but we were revitalized as haunters and felt we had something new.
Oddly enough, the TV show potential was also a big part of why we started
vlogging that year. The show never happened, but DRM was reborn.
The Glaschielverto Throne Room |
13. 2014 was the year the Carnival came to town. Walk me through this year’s haunt? What did this year's haunt consist of?
Oddly
enough, we’re not huge fans of circus haunts, clowns, etc, but having ventured
into the realms of using our own arts as haunt concepts led us straight back to
the world in which the Glaschielverto lived. Pandora had also always thought
about an Alice in Wonderland sort of haunt, though August wasn’t really into
that. The eventual compromise landed squarely and naturally on the Twisted
Poppets, the one-of-a-kind art dolls that Pandora creates. August had written a
back-story for them years ago and with some revisions and additions, we had a
full-blown concept that just happened to be a dark carnivale. This year also
included being contacted by a TV show, only this one got to the point of being
cast for it. In the end, we obviously decided to not be on the show for our own
reasons, but at first we knew we were going to have to go all out. We had so
many ideas, and we knew we had a ton of props, materials, people, and help. We
even agreed finally that we would expand the haunt into the backyard again and,
as if that weren’t enough, use the garage as well. In some ways, we felt we
were redeeming ourselves for our failures in 2009. In the end, our patrons
walked through a portion of the dead woods of Bramblerose Brook, the land of
the Glaschielverto and the Briar faeries, and came upon the carnivale itself.
They entered the funhouse maze which included mirrors, stripes, checkers, strobes,
etc. As they left that dizzying area, they came into the apothecary and
oddities shop from which they exited into the webby, spidery, tunnel area that
is just one part of Darkrose Hollow. Once they went through that they came
fully into the Midway of the Carnivale. In this area, they saw the façade of
Darkrose Manor itself, the carnivale’s pavilion area, haunted house, and
fortune teller’s tent. This area was also home to the vardo that was Max’s home and the broken doll factory as well as
the main stage upon which the Twisted Poppets perform. As they left the midway
by walking through the overgrown haunted house, they came upon the freak show
and games booths and the gypsy vardo/stage.
They exited finally through the Rotten Candy Lady Tent. And most importantly,
our oldest daughter, Ali, and her bestie, Victoria, were able to be a part of
it this year. Meaning that, in the end, all of our family have now participated
in the haunt over the years. We accomplished every goal we could have, as home
haunters…
The Dark Carnivale |
Vardo |
14. You
say you wanted to go more “adult” with this year’s haunt. What do you mean by
that?
Over
the years, we had said we were kid-friendly. We didn’t have blood, gore, etc.
We felt that the Poppets theme was going to have to be a little more gruesome
and, well, possibly risqué. We never actually did anything that was too
inappropriate for children; we just wanted to make sure everyone was aware
upfront that it was possible the final production could make it more ‘adult’ in
nature. We also had begun to feel that the DRM style and directions we were
going were leading us to include more burlesque themes and to become more
interactive with our patrons. However we move into the future, DRM will be
decisively more ‘adult’….
The Twisted Poppets |
15. You
have created a very elaborate mythology for the haunt. Could you explain a bit
about the mythology, and what exactly the Manor itself is?
Without
retelling all of the back-stories we can say this. We have combined all of our
own stories, creations, books, poems, and every other part of our artistic
expressions into one world. This world includes faeries, elves, monsters,
witches, vampires, werewolves, humans and so on. The primary landscapes are
Bramblerose Brook, wherein live the faeries, pixies, and elves; and Darkrose
Hollow, which is where the surviving witches, pumpkin creatures, etc all live.
The borderland between these two is an even more magical place, in and of
itself, where many a strange folk and creatures coalesce and where even
stranger things happen. Darkrose Manor, the home itself, sits within Darkrose
Hollow. Obviously we live in the Manor, now and always. Darkrose Manor is our
home. And again, it is also the repository of all of our combined passions,
arts, and creativity.
16. You incorporate a lot of fantasy themes into your haunts, whereas most haunts stick to traditional horror themes, such as ax murderers and zombies. What was your inspiration behind doing this?
Like
we said, DRM became more than a haunt to us. It became everything. Without
taking anything away from the more traditional haunts, we just figured out that
the only way for us to continue to be inspired and feel that personal sense of
fulfillment and satisfaction was to always expand and create something unique.
17. What
are your biggest sources of creative and artistic inspiration?
This
is tough to answer briefly. We don’t want to merely list the names of people,
movies, or music because inevitably a few would be inadvertently left out.
There are so many. Suffice it to say, we have a dark side. Our creations always
seem to express that side of us. Fantasy, the supernatural, the maligned…the
twisted…is just who we are….
18. Every
year you guys work with a different charity through your haunt. What are some of
the different charities you’ve worked with?
We’ve
only affiliated ourselves with charities this one year, 2014. Horizon Middle
School is our community’s school which is just up the street. The principal and
the faculty have always been so supportive and helpful to us. Stop CMV just has
that personal connection.
19. I
know that the charity work you did this year had much personal meaning. Would
you care to talk about it?
This
is hard to talk about. The website includes most everything you could need to know. We can say that we felt it important to use our reputation and our events
to give back something positive because that is also who we are….
20. I
know that the Manor has faced much adversity over the years. What can you tell
me about that?
We
have been privileged that the haunt itself has not had to experience much
adversity. Most people have been accepting and supportive, and we are grateful
for that. It is true that in 2014, Both the city and the
HOA became concerns for the first time. DRM was vandalized and experienced some
drama that was more personal in nature. We, the owners and individuals, have
experienced adversity and hardships, but we are not alone in that. We all do at
one point or another, and we all survive. Our friends, and the haunt community,
stand by one another and assist one another in ways like we’ve never
experienced elsewhere. We are proud to be a part of that community.
21. I
know you’ve said this is Darkrose Manor’s last year as a home haunt. Will the
Manor live on in a new form, perhaps as a pro haunt?
Yes…DRMFL!
22. What themes do you see yourself tackling with the Manor down the road, if indeed it does rise from the grave?
In
a word, coined by one of our own DRM family members: Macabaret. We intend to
continue exploring and creating the fully immersive, fantasy world that is DRM.
More Twisted Poppets |
23. If
you weren’t involved with haunting, what would you be doing to fill the void?
We
hope we never have to find out…. It will be simultaneously sad and relieving to
not home haunt in 2015, but we are always working on DRM, so there is no void.
We’ll continue to create in one form or another, always.
Vardo |
24. If
someone said to you they wanted to be a Haunter, what advice would you give
them?
This
is also tough because there are so many levels of haunting. I guess we’d start
by having them ask themselves this question: Why do you want to haunt? The
answer to that question ultimately decides everything. Beyond that, the advice
from DRM is know what you’re doing and why, be true to yourself, and stay
positive no matter what.
Daylight Details |
25. Any
questions you wish I had asked?
Just
one: Can I move to Colorado and join the DRM family? The answer to that would
be ‘Absolutely!’
26.
Where can people go to get more information
about the Manor?
A big thank you to August and Pandora for agreeing to do the interview. If you haven't done it, go check out their site and their haunt videos. You won't be disappointed! DRMFL!
Couple of my favorite haunters! Well done!
ReplyDeleteThank you, Damian!! Truly an honor!
ReplyDeleteGood interview
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